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Thoughts??
11/10 5:41 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by 89cardinal30:
Thoughts??



Holy Cross usually plays tough but I think we take this one by 42-7.
11/10 6:17 PM | IP: Logged
Mayfield rolls
11/10 8:53 PM | IP: Logged
Game time is 6:30 pm Central time.
11/12 4:09 PM | IP: Logged

Is my memory faulty or was there not a little bit of bad blood during or immediately following the game last year?  Something involving the fans, not the players? 
11/13 2:16 PM | IP: Logged
Seems like there was some fighting between either players or fans, not sure.
11/13 3:11 PM | IP: Logged
It's been a little chippy the last few times we played them, mostly fans, but the players on the field have had attitude with one another too. Not really sure why though.
11/13 11:26 PM | IP: Logged
Catholics + Criminals = Chippy
11/13 11:29 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by macdon:
Catholics + Criminals = Chippy



 so true
11/14 6:56 PM | IP: Logged
Score?

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11/15 8:24 PM | IP: Logged
21-0 mayfield at the half
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TEAM STATISTICS
Holy Cross ? First downs: 4. 
Rushing attempts-yards: 28-(-4). 
Passing-yards: 4-14-2 75. Total yards: 71. 
Penalties yards: 7-51. 
Fumbles-lost: 4-0.

Mayfield ? First downs: 17. 
Rushing attempts-yards: 39-192. 
Passing-yards: 12-21-1 190. 
Total yards: 382. 
Penalties yards: 6-50. 
Fumbles-lost-
INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
Rushing ? 
Holy Cross: Nathan Hess 3-9. 
Mayfield: Mills 20-132, Trajan Bright 7-24.

Passing ? 
Holy Cross: Alec Greenwell 3-8-1 41, Ryan Kaelin 1-6-1 34. 
Mayfield: Guhy 12-21-1 190.

Receiving ? 
Holy Cross: Kaelin 2-26, Brandon Moulden 1-34. 
Mayfield: Dylan Reed 5-46, Lane Kennemore 6-126.
Marshall Bacon 1-18
11/16 8:44 AM | IP: Logged
So 272 yards of offense came from former Graves County players? Haha, too funny!
11/17 12:24 AM | IP: Logged

Well one should consider where the parents went to school, Mayfield!  Many find it more convenient to send their child to the county elem. and then move them to Mayfield in middle or high school for the better educational experience found at Mayfield.  Espically when they hit high school, Graves is a train wreck at this level with far to many kids being lost in the shuffle.  Graves made one of many mistakes, as the recent tax vote confirmed a no confidence verdict with the tax height defeat, when they built one large high school where a county of this size (3rd largest area in the state in land size) should have had 2 high schools a north and south. Not to mention that some of the Graves school district actually lies in the Mayfield city limits.  But at the core of this, if you have a kid who wants to play football, Mayfield is a logical decision, they beat Graves every year and make deep payoff runs that sometimes end with state titles.  Kind of a no brainer! 
11/17 12:59 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by bambam25:
So 272 yards of offense came from former Graves County players? Haha, too funny!



Did any of these players ever play for Graves County High School?? The answer is no. So Go fly your eagle right up your...


Guess what numb brain, more from Graves County middle and elementary are going to be coming to Mayfield. You just might be shocked .

This post was edited on 11/17 9:45 AM by snakesnot

11/17 9:43 AM | IP: Logged
Watch out y'all may have to move up a class if that happens!

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11/17 12:39 PM | IP: Logged
I hope we do move up a class 2A was good to us and !A is watered down after the top  five schools.
11/17 12:55 PM | IP: Logged
When is the next re classifying?

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11/17 1:44 PM | IP: Logged
Won titles in 2A as well before moving down to 1A in 95. I hope we do move back up to 2A. We will keep wining tittles. Nothing new.
11/17 1:47 PM | IP: Logged
I was told we have one more season and then we reclassify. If that's the case and not too many schools consolidate mayfield would very well be in 2A.
11/17 5:23 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by MayfieldCardinal:

Well one should consider where the parents went to school, Mayfield!  Many find it more convenient to send their child to the county elem. and then move them to Mayfield in middle or high school for the better educational experience found at Mayfield. 


That's where I started to laugh.  Better Educational Experience at Mayfield, are you serious?  Last I checked Graves has more honors classes, more AP classes and routinely scores higher than Mayfield on state and standardized testing.  I will give you that mayfield has fewer students and resources, but the scoring on tests show where the real learning is taking place.  

That said, Graves can't claim these players, only wish they would have stayed home.  A lot of kids move to Mayfield during or right after Middle School simply to play on one of the best programs in the country.  But, this has been happening even before consolidation - as my dad and uncle both transferred to Mayfield to play football in the 70s under Jack Morris and when some championships. 

11/19 4:34 PM | IP: Logged
As far as which school is better academically, who knows?? Test scores do not mean that one school is more advanced than the other. All test scores mean is that schools are teaching via test criteria. Both schools hire teachers under board policy, both school systems flip flop teachers year in and year out. Both schools educate successful students everyday. I know people that have grown up through both school systems that are successful people. Of coarse graves will have higher test score with a much bigger student body as a whole but per student mayfield usually obtains higher test scores individually. Both systems are great based on education.

As far as county kids playing for mayfield, mayfield is in graves county. If your kids wants to play football and compete for a state championship, he needs to play at mayfield. If he wants to waste sweat from 3rd grade on only to win a district title he should go to graves. As far as putting athletes in college both schools do on a small scale traditionally. Murray st, Martin, small schools to name. Both have put a few into d1 schools over the years but all in all none of these kids have been that great over the years for big time football powers. Nothing wrong with a kid wanting to transfer to a school to better his or her athletic experience over a span of four years that will most likely be the best time of their lives.
11/19 9:18 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by eagle_man:



Originally posted by MayfieldCardinal:

Well one should consider where the parents went to school, Mayfield!  Many find it more convenient to send their child to the county elem. and then move them to Mayfield in middle or high school for the better educational experience found at Mayfield. 


That's where I started to laugh.  Better Educational Experience at Mayfield, are you serious?  Last I checked Graves has more honors classes, more AP classes and routinely scores higher than Mayfield on state and standardized testing.  I will give you that mayfield has fewer students and resources, but the scoring on tests show where the real learning is taking place.  

That said, Graves can't claim these players, only wish they would have stayed home.  A lot of kids move to Mayfield during or right after Middle School simply to play on one of the best programs in the country.  But, this has been happening even before consolidation - as my dad and uncle both transferred to Mayfield to play football in the 70s under Jack Morris and when some championships. 


If Graves is so much better academically then why does Mayfield students consistently get far more academic scholarships percentage-wise every year?

A lot of parents are also sending their kids to Mayfield due to the smaller class size, cause they feel their child is just a number at Graves.  Its also making Mayfield grow at a pretty fast pace, but the school can handle 700 I have been told, so there is room for growth there.

Just out of curiosity I went to the state scores site here: https://applications.education.ky.gov/KTR/default.aspx

If you look up Graves and Mayfield's district for the No Child Left Behind (NCLB) state test scores, which the latest is for 2011 for both the high schools you will see that Mayfield scores higher in both Math and Reading with 79% proficient in Math  at Mayfield and 59% at Graves and 73% Reading at Mayfield and 71% at Graves so I don't know where you are getting your score results from.

I have never heard of a QB from Graves graduate with a full academic scholarship to a major college, Mayfield graduated one in 2010 and its looking like one in 2014.

This post was edited on 11/19 10:26 PM by gobigredMHS

11/19 9:47 PM | IP: Logged

Both schools do a good job in the classroom. Mayfield does a better job on the gridiron.
11/20 10:27 AM | IP: Logged
 Graves County Football is on the rise.  9 wins last year with a 5A district championship.  10 wins this year so far, with a 5A district championship and playing for a 5A Region championship.  We have a lot of kids in the program, a well organized feeder system, a tremendous amount of support from the administration, community, and Alumni. There is a lot of excitement around our program and Its our goal to make Graves County Football one of the top programs in the State of KY.  I would ask the few posters on here that support Graves County Football to not say negative things about Mayfield.  Lets focus on us and how we can continue to elevate our program, wasting time with negative comments about them does us no good.  Graves County Football is on the rise and we will continue to move forward and elevate our program with people and players that are loyal and committed to Eagle Football.

GO EAGLES!  

This post was edited on 11/20 11:19 AM by sg35

11/20 11:15 AM | IP: Logged

SG35 I would mostly agree but I just don't see the support a consistent program needs from the community.  Honestly, the crowd at the WC game was woeful, about 300 eagle fans is all that bothered to show up or atleast were still there when I checked in on TV after the Mayfield game.  That amzaed me!  The announcer even made comments about the lack of a crowd in what was arguable the schools most important game ever.  Good luck moving forward the Eagles have been fun to watch the last couple of years
11/20 2:40 PM | IP: Logged

Eagle man
Most of your argument has already been debunked but like yourself, I started to laugh when I got to the fewer resources.  Might wanna send over the administration, they could learn alot in one of our business or economics classes.  Trying to keep up with the Jones over the years can catch up with you if your not a Jones.  Maybe instead of billboards the donor and Eagle Foundation can buy books and air conditioners.  I ask a friend the other day why his kid has no homework and it turns out that Graves couldn't afford enough class books so they can't take them home.  That is not the education I would want for my kids and neither should Graves parents. I am suprised more parents don't send their kids to Mayfield where there are enough resources for books thanks to sound management by the Admin. and low teacher/student ratio and turnover bacause we give our teachers raises and support them.  It's clearly true we have a better football program despite our tiny enrollment, the proof is in the pudding but it also has alot to do with Mayfield not being caught up in the politics of it all like Graves and the best player will play no matter who his dad or mom are or how much they gave  to the program. 
11/20 3:05 PM | IP: Logged
I always find it amusing how Mayfield folks freely admit on this board and elsewhere to the fact that it is quite common for talented football players in the Graves County zone to transfer to Mayfield in the middle or elementary school level solely for the purpose to play football for a better program.  I can't say I blame those individual kids fan and their parents for doing so; i'm sure I would have done the same thing if I were in their shoes.

The amusing part for me is how those same Mayfield folks will turn around and cite every other reason under the sun except the one above for why Mayfield has had success over time.  The fact of the matter is that Mayfield is a 6A school playing in a 1A district.  It's a 1A school with access to a 5A level talent pool.  Any objective look at the situation would lead to the conclusion that such access is a major ingredient to Mayfield's success.  

Compare to Mayfield to Caldwell for example.  Caldwell is a 2A school with access to a 2A level talent pool.  Yes, it can and will have great success when the stars align and players like Sinclair come along.  But such success cannot be sustained with only a 2A talent base and after Sinclair and his brethern graduate Caldwell will go back to being a decent but not state contender type team.  Caldwell's track record over the years substantiates my claim. 

Meanwhile, Mayfield with access to a 5A talent pool to reload will go on contending year after year.  And please don't tell me that Mayfield's coaching is that much better than Caldwell's, I think that this year's experience contradicts that claim.

Of course my post will probably kick off a firestorm.  So to head off a couple of things:

Yes, I am jealous and wish I could have played for a guaranteed state contender.
Yes, the talent alone will not guarantee a winning program.  To that extent Mayfield has become the proverbial self-licking ice-cream cone:  good talent wants to come to Mayfield for the success, and Mayfield remains successful because that talent comes to Mayfield.  My hat's off to the administration and coaching staff for sustaining this culture:  Mayfield is the perfect example of what can happen when Football is made the priority and such emphasis aligns with superior talent.
11/21 9:25 AM | IP: Logged
I didn't know all 22 starters for Mayfield came from Graves. Damn I learn something new everyday! I could have sworn my son went to Mayfield Elementary and Mayfield Middle. Damn, Damn, Damn. Don't know how I missed it.

Mayfield does have better coaching than 99% of the schools we play and that has been proven over and over. 
 
11/21 10:35 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by Landsend:
I always find it amusing how Mayfield folks freely admit on this board and elsewhere to the fact that it is quite common for talented football players in the Graves County zone to transfer to Mayfield in the middle or elementary school level solely for the purpose to play football for a better program.  I can't say I blame those individual kids fan and their parents for doing so; i'm sure I would have done the same thing if I were in their shoes.

The amusing part for me is how those same Mayfield folks will turn around and cite every other reason under the sun except the one above for why Mayfield has had success over time.  The fact of the matter is that Mayfield is a 6A school playing in a 1A district.  It's a 1A school with access to a 5A level talent pool.  Any objective look at the situation would lead to the conclusion that such access is a major ingredient to Mayfield's success.  

Compare to Mayfield to Caldwell for example.  Caldwell is a 2A school with access to a 2A level talent pool.  Yes, it can and will have great success when the stars align and players like Sinclair come along.  But such success cannot be sustained with only a 2A talent base and after Sinclair and his brethern graduate Caldwell will go back to being a decent but not state contender type team.  Caldwell's track record over the years substantiates my claim. 

Meanwhile, Mayfield with access to a 5A talent pool to reload will go on contending year after year.  And please don't tell me that Mayfield's coaching is that much better than Caldwell's, I think that this year's experience contradicts that claim.

Of course my post will probably kick off a firestorm.  So to head off a couple of things:

Yes, I am jealous and wish I could have played for a guaranteed state contender.
Yes, the talent alone will not guarantee a winning program.  To that extent Mayfield has become the proverbial self-licking ice-cream cone:  good talent wants to come to Mayfield for the success, and Mayfield remains successful because that talent comes to Mayfield.  My hat's off to the administration and coaching staff for sustaining this culture:  Mayfield is the perfect example of what can happen when Football is made the priority and such emphasis aligns with superior talent.



Mayfield has always had good to great talent in the Mayfield city limits. This was even before Graves County High School was born.I am always hearing that some of Graves players would like to come to Mayfield but mom or dad nix it. Most of the time when a player comes from Graves's Elementrey or Middle school they have a Mayfield connection. To say Mayfield strickly relies on Graves to be successfull is simply not true. Some player's from the county area have alway's come to Mayfield and I look for that trend to continue. 2 or 3 players here and there can change a program especially a 1A team. There is an aboundance of good talent in Mayfield / Graves, just look at both's 7th and 8th grade teams.

You are right about Caldwell, after next season they will go back to being a good decent team and will wait for lightning to strike again to have that great team.
11/21 10:52 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by Landsend:
I always find it amusing how Mayfield folks freely admit on this board and elsewhere to the fact that it is quite common for talented football players in the Graves County zone to transfer to Mayfield in the middle or elementary school level solely for the purpose to play football for a better program.  I can't say I blame those individual kids fan and their parents for doing so; i'm sure I would have done the same thing if I were in their shoes.

The amusing part for me is how those same Mayfield folks will turn around and cite every other reason under the sun except the one above for why Mayfield has had success over time.  The fact of the matter is that Mayfield is a 6A school playing in a 1A district.  It's a 1A school with access to a 5A level talent pool.  Any objective look at the situation would lead to the conclusion that such access is a major ingredient to Mayfield's success.  

Compare to Mayfield to Caldwell for example.  Caldwell is a 2A school with access to a 2A level talent pool.  Yes, it can and will have great success when the stars align and players like Sinclair come along.  But such success cannot be sustained with only a 2A talent base and after Sinclair and his brethern graduate Caldwell will go back to being a decent but not state contender type team.  Caldwell's track record over the years substantiates my claim. 

Meanwhile, Mayfield with access to a 5A talent pool to reload will go on contending year after year.  And please don't tell me that Mayfield's coaching is that much better than Caldwell's, I think that this year's experience contradicts that claim.

Of course my post will probably kick off a firestorm.  So to head off a couple of things:

Yes, I am jealous and wish I could have played for a guaranteed state contender.
Yes, the talent alone will not guarantee a winning program.  To that extent Mayfield has become the proverbial self-licking ice-cream cone:  good talent wants to come to Mayfield for the success, and Mayfield remains successful because that talent comes to Mayfield.  My hat's off to the administration and coaching staff for sustaining this culture:  Mayfield is the perfect example of what can happen when Football is made the priority and such emphasis aligns with superior talent.
Yeah, you will ruffle some feathers with these comments, but its all good.  I think the big question is, how many of these kids that come to Mayfield would get much play time at Graves.  I know of some that stuck it out at Graves, that had great talent, but sat on the sideline.  I think Puckett would have came to Mayfield had there not been a great QB already in place.

Mayfield has a tendency to make average players play above average and I can only attribute that to great coaching.  But Mayfield has not received this abundance of 'superior' talent from the Graves district that you alluding to, and the better players that have came to Mayfield had parents that graduated from Mayfield so they were gonna come anyways.

But I won't argue that Mayfield's success has brought in talent from other places, success will breed success.

This post was edited on 11/21 12:12 PM by gobigredMHS

This post was edited on 11/21 12:14 PM by gobigredMHS

11/21 11:59 AM | IP: Logged

Funny thing is that the door swings both ways yet we never hear about the kids who leave Mayfield for Graves.  But we all know why.  The projected starting RB at Mayfield for this year left for Graves, 2 years ago a QB left Mayfield and played WR for Graves.  Many of their stars are the kids of Mayfield parents.  AS for the Graves zone, some of it is in the city limits due to the city schools having a locked zone that is not allowed to expand

Eagle fans should be happy with what they have, in the past couple of years it has been a great ride and I am sure they want to beat big brother Mayfield but so does everyone else.  Enough time wasted on the disgruntled Eagle fans, back to Mayfield

This post was edited on 11/21 12:39 PM by MayfieldCardinal

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Originally posted by MayfieldCardinal:

Funny thing is that the door swings both ways yet we never hear about the kids who leave Mayfield for Graves.  But we all know why.  The projected starting RB at Mayfield for this year left for Graves, 2 years ago a QB left Mayfield and played WR for Graves.  Many of their stars are the kids of Mayfield parents.  AS for the Graves zone, some of it is in the city limits due to the city schools having a locked zone that is not allowed to expand

Eagle fans should be happy with what they have, in the past couple of years it has been a great ride and I am sure they want to beat big brother Mayfield but so does everyone else.  Enough time wasted on the disgruntled Eagle fans, back to Mayfield

This post was edited on 11/21 12:39 PM by MayfieldCardinal


I would be happy for both Mayfield and Graves to win championships. 
11/21 1:51 PM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by MayfieldSportsFan:


Originally posted by MayfieldCardinal:

Funny thing is that the door swings both ways yet we never hear about the kids who leave Mayfield for Graves.  But we all know why.  The projected starting RB at Mayfield for this year left for Graves, 2 years ago a QB left Mayfield and played WR for Graves.  Many of their stars are the kids of Mayfield parents.  AS for the Graves zone, some of it is in the city limits due to the city schools having a locked zone that is not allowed to expand

Eagle fans should be happy with what they have, in the past couple of years it has been a great ride and I am sure they want to beat big brother Mayfield but so does everyone else.  Enough time wasted on the disgruntled Eagle fans, back to Mayfield

This post was edited on 11/21 12:39 PM by MayfieldCardinal


I would be happy for both Mayfield and Graves to win championships. 

Oh yeah, I think it would be great for our area, the better football we have here, the better we both get.
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